Oh, wait, there is: https://lingojam.com/HieroglyphicsTranslator except its translation of "Welcome, the entire land" looks very different from the symbols in the article.
As far as I can tell this is a transliterator, not a translator. It's just turning latin letters into hieroglyphs as you type them. I don't know how accurate the transliteration is.
It would be like coming up with a sequence of Chinese characters that sounds like an English sentence when pronounced by a Mandarin speaker. Nothing really to do with translation.
Actually this does happen for some foreign terms/loan words, like the names of other countries:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcription_into_Chinese_cha...
Getting a native French speaker to recite these to native English speakers is hilarious! Especially when the French speaker is trying to work out why what they've said is seemingly so funny.
I don't know if that is enough to put me in the intersection of their Venn diagram though.
Edit: To see the sequence you can paste "" into the corpus search at https://center-for-decipherment.ch/tool/#script=elam
did the crossing of the rhine take place in 00406, 0406, or 406? what extra information do the two former styles convey?
also, what about the year 100000?
we are somehow doing just fine without leading zeroes for other quantities.
there is an argument to be made about e.g. iso8601 datetime formats that need to be lexicographically sortable; but i don't see any of the longnow fans using anything like those.
(While Unicode has combining diacritics, this isn't sufficient to e.g. stack the glyphs as shown in the article.)
However, it turns out that Microsoft has developed a tool that can modify an existing font to allow this, representing the hieroglyphyics properly. I've written a brief tutorial that shows how to actually use it:
https://marzchipane.com/notes%20and%20essays/interesting_uni...
(You may need to press Shift+F5 to reload fully if they don't show properly)
EDIT: hieroglyphs, not hieroglyphics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwZB0MsXCjQ
They can be pretty complex and a neat form of 2D-positional language!
The script is hieroglyphic.
A study group or study partner would probably be enough extra motivation to get basic proficiency at the least. So if you're willing let me know if you find/wish to create something.
probably_wrong•2mo ago
I found this article [1] for how the word "Welcome" is constructed, but how to understand the rest is beyond me.
[1] https://www.ancientegyptblog.com/?p=1458
yohannparis•2mo ago
The goal of an HELLO WORLD is not to show it's printed, but the process of what everything is need to print HELLO WORLD. Every step, and every word and concept needs to be explained.
Therefore this article is not a proper HELLO WORLD exemple.
vincent-manis•2mo ago
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yohannparis•2mo ago
Usually it goes something like this, for example HTML:
<!doctype html>
<html>
<body>HELLO WORLD</body>
</html>
Then you explain what a tag is, why they need closing or not, what the body is, etc. This is a basic HELLO WORLD example. If I dumped the above code and says done, that will be useless to anybody.
kortex•2mo ago
𓇳𓁉𓀃𓀀
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maxdamantus•2mo ago
I guess Chinese characters work similarly, where eg, each character has a particular sound in Mandarin (with some characters having the same sound), but you spell words using certain characters based on the (sometimes historical) semantic association of components (radicals) within each character.
I'll admit I'm not an expert in either system, so sorry if either description seems like an oversimplification (I'm pretty sure there are exceptions in both cases).
This also leads to one of my favourite tables on Wikipedia [0], showing correspondences between various scripts, including Egyptian hieroglyphs and Arabic/Hebrew. Not all hieroglyphs are included, but you can see that each letter in Arabic/Hebrew ultimately derives from some hieroglyph which would have had a similar sound. The name of the Arabic letter ع sounds the same as the Arabic word for "eye" (ʿayn, عين) and the corresponding hieroglyph also looks like an eye.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet#Table_of_l...
Y_Y•2mo ago
You might then enjoy a list of these "accidental semantics" acquired by foreign country names, which are* rough transliterations, usually from local or English name.
I can't find the nice source I originally had, so here's a stochastic patrot's approximation:
* Obviously CJK etc countries already had namesfluoridation•2mo ago
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yorwba•2mo ago
So we have most of 𓇍𓇋𓏭𓂻𓍘𓇋𓇾𓂋𓇥𓂋𓈐𓆑 / jy.tj-tꜣ-r-ḏr-?? / "welcome land entire ??" except for the 𓈐𓆑 at the end where I have no idea whether it's phonetic ḥr=f or a determinative https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%F0%93%88%90 or something else.
monoidist•2mo ago
𓇍𓇋𓏭𓂻𓍘𓇋𓇾𓂋𓇥𓂋𓈐𓆑
jy.tj t3 r ḏr=f
come [STATIVE] land [VOCATIVE] to limit its
“Welcome, entire land”
(I’m not an Egyptologist either.)
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monoidist•2mo ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinative
nxobject•2mo ago
(It doesn’t have the glyph layout chops, though…)