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Dots: Always-on agents

https://openai.com/index/introducing-dots/
270•alvis•1h ago•160 comments

GPT 6.1 Sol: Near-Astra intelligence for a fifth of the price

https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-1-sol/
363•crorella•1h ago•296 comments

Tcl/Tk 9.1 Released

https://www.tcl-lang.org/software/tcltk/9.1.html
62•dmux•1h ago•13 comments

How Delhi cut electricity loss from 50 to 5 percent

https://spectrum.ieee.org/delhi-electricity-loss
340•rbanffy•5h ago•190 comments

DraftKings Is Using AI to Behaviorally Target Chronic Gamblers

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/09/draftkings-using-ai-supercharge-harms-online-behavioral-adv...
229•paimapi•2h ago•161 comments

New PlayStation 5 Console Jailbreak Released

https://github.com/ntfargo/Relapse-Exploit
47•therepanic•2h ago•15 comments

A Privacy Analysis of Web and Mobile Conversational AI Agents [pdf]

https://jorgegarciaherrero.com/wp-content/interactivos/20260916-Prompt-like-a-butterfly-sting-lik...
384•damaru2•9h ago•123 comments

Virus Stole a Human Gene and Won't Let Go of It

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/28/science/virus-molluscum-human-gene.html
29•gumby•22h ago•5 comments

Walking Men

https://bookofjoe2.blogspot.com/2026/09/walking-men.html
57•surprisetalk•1d ago•16 comments

Without the Hot Air

https://www.withouthotair.com/
105•0sake_rs•5h ago•50 comments

NAND-16: a computer built from 277,248 NAND gates

https://somethingbig.ai/computer
13•rossant•1d ago•6 comments

Jeeves. Reasoning improves Jev-like decision models

https://github.com/PostHog/jeeves
191•nicowaltz•7h ago•81 comments

Phyllotaxis: An audio-reactive LED display

https://jagi.studio/posts/phyllotaxis/
224•evakhoury•1d ago•39 comments

ChatGPT Pro 500

https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9793128-about-chatgpt-pro-tiers
110•prodigycorp•1h ago•85 comments

DevDay 2026 Recap

https://openai.com/index/devday-2026-recap/
44•polygot•1h ago•11 comments

Show HN: NSL – WSL for Linux

https://frostyard.github.io/nsl/
50•bketelsen•3h ago•36 comments

You are no longer invited to dinner

https://www.derekthompson.org/p/the-death-of-the-american-host
588•barry-cotter•7h ago•532 comments

Using any C++ library in Godot

https://blog.conan.io/cpp/conan/gamedev/godot/cmake/2026/09/29/Using-Any-Cpp-Library-In-Godot.html
140•czoido•9h ago•48 comments

Digital Audio on the ZX Spectrum's 1-Bit Beeper

https://bumbershootsoft.wordpress.com/2026/09/26/digital-audio-on-the-zx-spectrums-1-bit-beeper/
42•ibobev•2d ago•14 comments

A Staff Engineer's Guide to Inventing Work

https://sujithjay.com/inventing-work
69•amortize•1d ago•13 comments

The End of a Fair Price: Dynamic Pricing and the Normalization of Gouging

https://prospect.org/2026/09/29/oct-2026-battling-an-army-of-price-setters-owens-review/
10•paimapi•22m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Jevstiller – Distill Jev into a local model, with a disagreement bound

https://jevstiller.pages.dev/posts/the-guarantee/
45•tgluck•6h ago•6 comments

1 in 8 cancer cases worldwide are caused by infections, study finds

https://www.cbc.ca/lite/story/9.7361622
166•colinprince•5h ago•97 comments

Google ending ChromeOS support two years early

https://www.theregister.com/os-platforms/2026/09/29/google-ending-chromeos-support-two-years-earl...
124•rbanffy•4h ago•105 comments

California farmers are struggling to sell grapes as demand for wine drops

https://www.kqed.org/news/12101534/california-farmers-are-struggling-to-sell-grapes-as-demand-for...
353•randycupertino•22h ago•857 comments

Booted up in 1993, this server still runs – but not for much longer (2017)

https://www.computerworld.com/article/1673071/booted-up-in-1993-this-server-still-runs-but-not-fo...
163•doener•1d ago•86 comments

macOS Golden Gate Is a Buggy Mess

https://www.squareorbits.com/blog/2026/09/macos-golden-gate-is-a-buggy-mess/
353•SquareOrbits•3h ago•259 comments

500k facial scans at UK stations yield no arrests, 1 false positive

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/sep/29/trial-live-facial-recognition-cameras-london-s...
416•ilamont•6h ago•250 comments

Software occlusion culling in Block Game

https://enikofox.com/posts/software-rendered-occlusion-culling-in-block-game/
84•airhangerf15•2d ago•7 comments

Pirating the Pirates

https://mubi.com/en/notebook/posts/pirating-the-pirates
677•piotrgrabowski•1d ago•344 comments
Open in hackernews

Dots: Always-on agents

https://openai.com/index/introducing-dots/
260•alvis•1h ago

Comments

minimaxir•1h ago
dots dots, more dots. k stop dots.

Claw is a cute name. Muse is cute name. Dots (note: not always upper-case) seems forced and impersonal, which doesn't match the vibe in the promo video.

dstroot•1h ago
OpenAI is so good at marketing and naming (e.g., "ChatGPT").
foolfoolz•1h ago
ChatGPT is a perfectly cromulent name
zahrevsky•1h ago
I guess they are just stuck with this name, as originally this was a research project “Chat with GPT” to try to use a GPT model to generate assistant's chat messages.
IshKebab•1h ago
ChatGPT was named before anyone realised it would become so well known, and by the time it was it was too late. It's not like BERT is an amazing name either.
rpozarickij•22m ago
There used to be Bard but no one remembers it anymore (although this is a bit different, because Bard wasn't nearly as well known as Gemini).

I'm really curious if OpenAI wanted to adopt a different name at some point. Or maybe they hope that sometime in the future one of their products will supersede ChatGPT and everyday people will start using that new name for everything AI so maybe they aren't in a rush to rename ChatGPT itself to anything else.

efskap•11m ago
But BERT's name led to some wonderfully named spinoffs like CamemBERT and FlauBERT for French, as well as ALBERT, RoBERTa, etc.
nba456_•1h ago
Muse is a cute name?
jeffgreco•1h ago
Claw is a cute name?
giarc•58m ago
The muse character is cute, muse the name is not.
therealdrag0•46m ago
Muse is a fantastic name. Cuteness is debatable
tancop•26m ago
A muse is someone who gives you inspiration and is always there when you need them most. Muse the agent has personalized home screen suggestions as a main feature and is always online.

It's also short, gender neutral, not a human name (unless you're nonbinary because they can get wild), easy to pronounce and sounds good. This is what happens when your marketing department is one of the best in the world.

S0y•1h ago
Watch the tail!
lxgr•8m ago
Muse is pretty bad branding in that it first was the name of a model, then that of a harness/agent/consumer product.

Claw is also an existing name for an existing harness/agent, but at least that would be the same category as dots.

jason_zig•1h ago
i feel like when they style them all cute like that (see muse) it means they're problematic and invasive.
minimaxir•1h ago
Muse makes sense since it targets the general normies. Dots explicitly are targeting developers instead which makes it a bit weird.
walthamstow•1h ago
Dots seem to me to be for the rest of general knowledge work and not specifically developers
rolosa•52m ago
Requires $100/month minimum, are non-developers paying that?
gk1•43m ago
Of course they are. Why wouldn’t they?

- non-developer

sunaurus•1h ago
I mean the fact that it's not available in the EU is a pretty big tell
SwabbyNat74•1h ago
Does no one remember the MS Paperclip?!?
HeavenFox•1h ago
What a terrible marketing page. I read it a few times and still have zero idea what this thing is.
zahrevsky•1h ago
Agreed. Also, when I open a page about an app I want to see it's screenshots first, not some ad.
algoth1•1h ago
It's openclaw powered by chatgpt
apetresc•1h ago
It's hosted OpenClaw.
maherbeg•26m ago
It's a work oriented Muse if you're familiar with Muse. A single thread abstraction to manage your work and delegate to other threads.
vb-8448•1h ago
They finally managed to get rid of project, middle and top managers!

Next natural step: CEOs staring tens of dots to control other humans and agents XD

Trasmatta•45m ago
In actuality, it feels a lot more like project and middle managers getting rid of ICs

I can feel it in the air, every single software business is itching to get rid of as many developers as possible, and move everything to their PMs. Hiring has already almost completely stopped, and some have already started the layoffs. More will come.

jesse_dot_id•1h ago
Nope. If an AI agent can't intuit how I will feel about an action it's taking on my behalf, I'm not give it access to my digital life. OpenClaw, Muse, Dots... doesn't matter which one. All are an equally awful idea.
dylanhouli•1h ago
I agree. I don't feel comfortable giving AI access to my entire computer or phone...not sure that will ever change. Seeing people give that access to agents without any sort of sandboxing blows my mind.

The idea of having an AI assistant help you with all aspects of life is cool and futuristic, but idk, I'm still just out here using a chatbot interface and doing fine.

dstroot•1h ago
Pro plan only for now.
astrodust•1h ago
Excluding some countries, listed as "markets excluding the European Economic Area, Switzerland, and the UK" but possibly Canada, too?
hmottestad•9m ago
I'm in Norway and I would was hoping to get to play with dots.

I guess Norway and 30+ other countries are excluded.

goda90•1h ago
I imagine the reasoning was to be "quirky" but the video being set in intentionally fake looking sets in a TV studio-type space gave off the vibes that this isn't a serious product for doing real things.
floatrock•1h ago
Or if we take the metaphor literally: any space you operate in is merely a stage for the AI's.

It's a perfect communication of vibes, it's just the AIs' vibes not yours.

dgellow•1h ago
I cannot fathom how much compute will be wasted with that type of always on agentic systems
rglover•1h ago
Forget the compute, what about the energy (and other resource) requirements?
dgellow•25m ago
Yes that’s what I meant. Compute requires energy, infrastructure, etc. easily more than 90% of it will be wasted, just LLMs processing meaningless data in cronjobs, for the few instances where there is something actually meaningful to report to the user
matchbok3•22m ago
Do you want to ban almonds because they require a lot of water? (1000x more AI?)
hankbond•1h ago
> takes important work off your plate so you get more of your time and attention back

Ok but I want the time and attention so that I can do important work. What bizarre marketing.

floatrock•1h ago
nah now you can review your website designs while cooking dinner.

It's not giving any of your time and attention back, it's selling a world where your attention is always captured by some pavlovian app ping.

Ambient intelligence is only useful with ambient attention capture.

gk1•41m ago
Some important work is fun to do, some isn’t.
cartersj•1h ago
This feels like a mass-market push.

The cost is going to be hard for many consumers to reconcile though. Free, Go, and Plus are probably the most popular consumer-facing plans, and Dots isn't available on any of those.

Who knows, maybe they think enterprise will pick up and run with Dots? Seems unlikely.

rolosa•51m ago
It's not reaching mass market if it's gated behind a $100/month plan
cousinbryce•42m ago
People who are bad with money is a big market. Maybe they’re using the Burts Bees strategy
lxgr•10m ago
If they wanted to address that market, the play would be to make them relatively cheap first, then constantly raise the price. (See also: cable TV and ironically cable TV "alternatives")
therealdrag0•47m ago
Oh wow I assumed it’d be available for cheap/free mass market like Muse is. Strange.
sanex•40m ago
It's powered by Astra who will blow through your $20 plan in about 10 minutes
jdw64•1h ago
I heard they use GPT Space (like Notion) together with Slack and use it like a human colleague, but watching the actual demo video, the speed is so slow it's shocking..
glub•1h ago
So essentially, another attempt at giving codex to regular people.
jesse_dot_id•1h ago
The only reasons I can think for OpenAI and Meta to make their always-on agents cute little cartoons are all nefarious in nature.
guywithahat•1h ago
It could be to market more towards women, who they may have both independently determined aren't paying for AI as much. I don't have any data to go one way or another but I can imagine lots of reasons to make the agent cute that aren't nefarious
therealdrag0•51m ago
What’s nefarious about attracting users?
duplessitous•46m ago
Really, none? Was Microsoft nefarious when they deployed Clippy? I feel like there is an incredibly obvious reason that is not nefarious at all: the average consumer likes cute things
jpnc•41m ago
> Was Microsoft nefarious when they deployed Clippy?

Yes. It was predictive programming for getting (paper)clipped by AI.

layer8•18m ago
The average consumer doesn’t have a $100+ ChatGPT Pro subscription though.
tinyhouse•1h ago
One way that I find the AI space boring is that everyone is working on the same things. The release of Jev was a breath of fresh air.
gh0stcat•1h ago
How about the fact that anthropic and openai's product pages are the exact same thing, down to text bullet points. They're the same thing, only able to copy each other, only able to optimize to some vague mean.

https://chatgpt.com/#pricing https://claude.com/pricing

It all just looks the same. I get that this isn't the technical details, but it just sends this message that everyone is copying each other all the time, this is the best way to organize a pricing page, etc. Just a weird, eerie feeling.

tinyhouse•1h ago
To Anthropic's credit, I find their overall design so much better than OpenAI's.
rolosa•48m ago
Are they not releasing a Jev competitor as well?

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Decisions API Decisions API enables real-time decision-making by focusing Luna's intelligence on a specific set of user-defined questions with finite pre-defined answers. Developers supply context using text or images, and get back answers they can use to classify content, route requests, or choose an agent’s next action.

Available in limited preview today with a broad release planned in the coming days.

ranyume•1h ago
It's great to see that my personal assistant can stop working and maybe report me to the police if the company disagrees with what I'm doing!
intrasight•1h ago
> It's great to see that my personal assistant can stop working and maybe report me to the police

That part has always been true

cousinbryce•47m ago
You need to hire better assistants
intrasight•33m ago
Or have the ability to issue a pardon
ranyume•30m ago
My flesh assistant would never. In fact they would cheer me on if I tell them I got a gun just for Dario [1].

https://sfstandard.com/2026/09/04/anthropic-threat-claude-sf...

Trasmatta•40m ago
Or if the agent literally just hallucinates a crime

Opus 5.5 decided to just randomly `pkill` everything on my laptop the other day. Jailbreaking models is still easy AF. Every single release like this brags about their "safeguards", but none of it really works at the end of the day.

rvshchwl•1h ago
It seems that this is the new primitive all AI vendors are converging onto next, first chat, then code, and now always-on Agents. I'm curious to see when or if Anthropic builds something similar to this as well, especially since the market Grok Bot, Muse and Dots is catering to is business and enterprise users, which seems to be where Anthropic is focused.

The ideal evolution would be for these Agents to work with each other, but it's unlikely these companies would do anything to prevent vendor lock-in.

wxw•1h ago
The lines between Codex, ChatGPT Work, and Dots is getting a bit blurry to me. I think the target should be a remote agent(s) in its own sandbox with long memory, and all three are heading in that direction so why have the distinctions?

Unless Dots is dramatically more capable than Muse, I'm also more bullish on Muse than Dots. I think Muse is a better consumer play because it can be forever subsidized by Meta ads and find distribution in family of apps while Dots is in a weird place between consumer & professional. From the release, it also sounds like you'll have to pay per Dot at some point which doesn't sound appealing.

larodi•1h ago
Different UIs targeting audiences of various background, considering their knowledge of AI, wrapped in the correct medium the target would be most likely to embrace. In essence all harness are made the same ... more or less of course.
rolosa•54m ago
Muse is $0/$16/$80 vs Dot being $100/$200/$500 so yeah I don't think Dot is meant for casuals.
LollipopYakuza•50m ago
Is it really about what it offers, or about how each plan are subsidized by Meta and OpenAI?
abirch•45m ago
Meta is probably making money off of Muse. They can sell ads with the information that they glean.
jstummbillig
realharo•1h ago
I wonder at what point they'll have to answer the inevitable question: "why does the agent even need me anymore"?
dc_giant•14m ago
^ this is the thought I had 10 times reading through their announcement page.
alvis•1h ago
My only complaint to dots is that why their mascots are looking the same as grok bot
ChrisArchitect•1h ago
The long bent shadow of Clippy extends all the way here....... and not sure how they're going to avoid the comparisons and snark on this marketing, at least initially.
Oarch•55m ago
"What's a paperclip?"

- Kids today, probably

holler•1h ago
Does this basically do what Instinct does? (viral text-only agent w/$10B valuation in short notice)

Also why do we need another name for agents? It's getting to be too much...

gk1•38m ago
“Agent” is the type of product, like “car.” “Dot” is the name of the product, like “Helix.”
mindtricks•1h ago
This approach probably wont land well here, but it's still interesting to see each frontier's evolving approach to working with AI.
1-6•59m ago
How does one work when all this stuff keep hitting the feed?
skybrian•58m ago
So... what kind of Internet access do dots have? Which bulletin boards will they use to compare notes?
tracyhenry•57m ago
I always think the best company to own an alway-on agent should be Apple, who owns the platform and is more privacy-focused. I hope they catch up and eventually eliminate others.
therealdrag0•48m ago
I agree in spirit. But I’m also most worried about prompt injection attacks given the agent had access to all my stuff, and it seems frontier labs will be best equipt to handle prevention of that.
etchalon•57m ago
At some point a designer is going to come up with a visualization for an agent that isn't "amorphous character blob".
pratio•50m ago
What do people think about the dots video? Seems to be a pattern now.

Revenue increasing 51% YOY, wth. Cake vendor cancels another one is found and an appointment that works has already been scheduled?

Are we so much bothered by the mundane? I feel like that's most of the human experience. If we cut out the time we spend sleeping and working, it's the boring and mundane things that make life beautiful.

softwaredoug•49m ago
So this is like OpenClaw but managed and first class?
ecommerceguy•49m ago
I feel like these companies are pushing on a string, they are getting desperate to have a profitable product. I'll continue to use my $10 subscription to an AI studio noone here has heard of that has over 150 models. And still use all the free ones, until they quit working.

I really am beyond maxed out at the availability of AI's. They all are so similar now.

codehorses•25m ago
What's the $10 subscription AI studio?
cs702•49m ago
Will Muse and Dots be more successful than Clippy[a]? I don't know. Maybe.

What I do know is that those cute one-syllable names are meant to make you feel comfortable with AI agents who are deep in your business all the time.

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[a] https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-life-death-mic...

teekert•49m ago
It's cool. It also is a large tech company getting a bit too close for comfort. I'll start experimenting with stuff like this when I'm convinced "the dot" only has my interest in mind (which includes absolute privacy, as in self-destruct-before-sharing-my-secrets.) I use computers and models to think, my thoughts are my own.
TheAtomic•49m ago
That might be the worst advert I've ever seen. People looking up at childish Ai glow up god beings on huge screens in distinctly childish environments, with cliched decision-makers gasping for West Wing energy...repulsive.
modeless•48m ago
Remarkably similar to Grok Bot. And the Spaces thing seems like a straight clone of Notion.
AlfredBarnes•45m ago
Muse and now Dot's emergence in popularity makes me think Apple's "lil Finder" will be their take on it.
jdoliner•44m ago
It is kind of fascinating how much convergence there is in branding of AI products. Muse seems to be the one outlier in that the assistant is a little less abstract (and the model logo less buttholesque) but other than that it's almost all converged. Anyone have a theory why that is?
thomasahle•41m ago
Do Dots replace OpenClaw?
jdlyga•40m ago
The "personal AI agent" is what everyone's fighting over now. You have Grok Bots, Facebook's Muse, and Instinct doing this exact same thing already. Personally, I think Instinct is the best of the 3 right now. It's a bit like OpenClaw, abstracting everything behind iMessage or WhatsApp but you can ask it to monitor your email inbox, hand off a task like check for apartments that fit a certain criteria (and it gets back to you days later when a new one is posted), or ask it to check in every so often. But the landscape changes so often who knows what will happen. I think Instinct will get eaten up by one of the larger firms.
estearum•22m ago
I like Instinct because I like the idea of trusting a 22 year old founder who won't (or can't) describe the security model of something that has all your credentials. Completely fucking hilarious that people are using that shit. Fits the stereotype for VCs though!
aniceperson•18m ago
those are openclaw but skip the setup vps step for your regular joe, with the enormous downside of vendor lock-in and low/none customizability.
randypewick•37m ago
always on agents are an obvious step: they need more data to grow and improve their models. humans learn continuously and we are always on, why should an agent be any different? I have no problem with this kind of tech, but I do have problems with the company, so, thank you, but no thank you.
Imnimo•35m ago
>When you aren’t actively working with it, your dot looks for ways to help in the background. We call this “proactive research”. It does this by using the apps you’ve already connected with tools that are restricted to be read-only, which means that they can’t send messages, change app content, or control your browser or computer.

Am I criminally liable when my dot's "proactive research" is to break out of its sandbox and attempt to hack a government website?

KaiserPro•30m ago
lets run the flow diagram to find out:

1) are you rich?

2) are you useful to the present american government?

3) are you doing something that if stopped would break the AI buisness model

if you answered yes to more than one, you are not liable.

kelseyfrog•28m ago
How rich are you? Above a certain threshold crimes become whoopsies.
totallygeeky•35m ago
Ah, the continued pursuit of normalizing surveillance/becoming wholly reliant on a single service by making it cute with big eyes. Very tired of this already.
simianwords•34m ago
I hear that Dots don't count towards usage, is that true?
alienbaby•8m ago
chatting with your dots does not. work dots do, does.
robofanatic•34m ago
Is this the Jony Ive project?
drusepth•18m ago
It's almost certainly the software side. Expect "dot" pendants or "dot" pocketwatches in a year or two.
ceuk•34m ago
Incredibly advanced technology but I bet it still won't let me integrate with more than one Gmail account at the same time..
kirykl•33m ago
Seems like a solution in search of a problem
creposukre•33m ago
I can imagine Dots dating other Dots on behalf of their respective users in the near future, à la Black Mirror
zaxioms•32m ago
The way that this is marketed at children is nothing short of evil.
lxgr•7m ago
Which children have $100/month of disposable income?
johnfahey•32m ago
OpenAI won a lot of good favor for the generous Codex subscription and the efficiency of their models, but now that many people have switched over from Claude, they think they can leverage their position to peddle a stream of unnecessary products, and crack down on the generous limits[1] that brought everyone to Codex in the first place.

Anthropic did the same thing. Earlier this year, Claude subs and Claude Code took off because of the subscription's incredible capability and value, then once they gained enough users, they started focusing on unnecessary products no one asked for (see Claude in Slack), and eventually lost their lead. After losing a bunch of customers to Codex subs they realized their mistake, and now they're shipping again.

AI companies are bad at making software; they are good at making AI models. And that's about it.

[1] https://x.com/thsottiaux/status/2104823812042940713

woah•23m ago
The bitter lesson
bigwheels•16m ago
The Bitter Lesson is significantly more interesting than watching researcher companies cosplay at ...whatever you call what they're claiming to be doing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitter_lesson

teej•17m ago
They're just trying things. It's not a conspiracy to "distract" anyone.
johnfahey•
terhechte•30m ago
> Dots are rolling out in ChatGPT on web, mobile, and desktop starting today to Pro users in markets excluding the European Economic Area, Switzerland, and the UK

Living in the EU, I suspected as much. Still sad. I understand it is because we voted in a bunch of imbeciles, still sad though.

alienbaby•8m ago
yea that annoyed be, being in the UK :/
cavoirom•22m ago
I feel the AI provider doesn't get the points, every harness they created will lock-in with their model (why din't they?), this prevent the adoption because people scare vendor lock-in. They may develop these harness within a provider neutral company (owned by them), the harness may success when combining with competitor models, they still gain benefits.
beering•16m ago
What’s the actual lock-in, in practice? Seems like the switching cost is minimal, compared to the old days of Windows vs Mac where half your stuff wouldn’t run on the other.
petesergeant•21m ago
I spend literally all my work day, and a good bit of my personal time, talking to agents, getting them to do things on my behalf. Almost always pretty tightly sandboxed. I just don't understand how people using these things haven't had catastrophic failures yet.

I minted what I thought was a minimal-permission Github token for a single action, and the agent I gave it to discovered it had more permissions than I thought, and made use of those permissions. Who is trusting these things with write access to their lives?

frangonf•21m ago
So the industry is pushing heavily into openclawing their products, "cutemorphizing" the clanker shape and is slackifying the UX so that we can have the familiar UI/UX for the general public and turn the tools more proactive without leaving them too lost.

I think it's a great approach for enterprise since interacting with the machines as a babysitted pet disposable entity is the meta today with human workers. I'm excited to start my new role next month as tamagotchi engineer.

enraged_camel•19m ago
I think this is a flop. I watched the Livestream and the audience reaction at the end was very muted. You could always taste the "that's cute but can we move on already?" thoughts everyone had.
ChaseRensberger•17m ago
not quite dots related but I am surprised by some of the openai negativity in here.

to me they still are the only lab that ships fantastic models that are easily portable to different agentic harnesses. I use my codex subscription 24/7 within opencode and wingman and haven't had any complaints in a long time.

https://v2.opencode.ai https://wingman.actor

felixgallo•13m ago
'OpenAI has closed many of its safety-focussed teams. Around the time the superalignment team was dissolved, its leaders, Sutskever and Leike, resigned. (Sutskever co-founded a company called Safe Superintelligence.) On X, Leike wrote, “Safety culture and processes have taken a backseat to shiny products.” Soon afterward, the A.G.I.-readiness team, tasked with preparing society for the shock of advanced A.I., was also dissolved. When the company was asked on its most recent I.R.S. disclosure form to briefly describe its “most significant activities,” the concept of safety, present in its answers to such questions on previous forms, was not listed. (OpenAI said that its “mission did not change” and added, “We continue to invest in and evolve our work on safety, and will continue to make organizational changes.”) The Future of Life Institute, a think tank whose principles on safety Altman once endorsed, grades each major A.I. company on “existential safety”; on the most recent report card, OpenAI got an F. In fairness, so did every other major company except for Anthropic, which got a D, and Google DeepMind, which got a D-.

“My vibes don’t match a lot of the traditional A.I.-safety stuff,” Altman said. He insisted that he continued to prioritize these matters, but when pressed for specifics he was vague: “We still will run safety projects, or at least safety-adjacent projects.” When we asked to interview researchers at the company who were working on existential safety—the kinds of issues that could mean, as Altman once put it, “lights-out for all of us”—an OpenAI representative seemed confused. “What do you mean by ‘existential safety’?” he replied. “That’s not, like, a thing.”'

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2026/04/13/sam-altman-may...

einpoklum•17m ago
I'll take always-off agents please.
layer8•14m ago
Looks like “ClawGPT” was already taken as a name.

(Indeed: https://clawgpt.com/)

everfrustrated•14m ago
Lolz https://dot.com goes to xAI's GrokBot (the competition)
lxgr•13m ago
Interesting, so they're not available in the "plus" plan?

$100 is a pretty tough sell when the competition starts at free (Meta Muse).

Animats•12m ago
Dots are remarkably capable, always-on agents built to handle everything.

They're probably over-selling there. I hope. If they're not, a lot of people will be unemployed soon.

itzikkatz•12m ago
Grok-bot 2.0
alienbaby•11m ago
Great I thought. I'll go set one up!

To discover the rollout for Pro users does not currenly include the UK :/

isoprophlex•10m ago
It's uber for openclaw!
hangrybear666•8m ago
These recent product announcements sound like entirely plausible satire, but unfortunately most of these pages are not actually intended to be a joke, it's not even amusing, but mostly tiring.
gnarlouse•5m ago
I love stuffing eldritch horror inside a teddie bear plushie. So perfectly a caricature of modern tech-dystopianism.

God I want the fucking market to crash

zdragnar•1h ago
Or how much paperclip was abhorred?
Marha01•32m ago
That's because it was pretty much a useless gimmick. If it was a capable AI assistant like Astra, it woudn't have been abhorred.
qntmfred•1h ago
you don't have to give yourself up to irrational, anxious feelings.
bko•1h ago
I think they're just meant to be friendly. I don't think it's that deep. They're useful and not scary and its marketing is meant to project that image.
Lalabadie•58m ago
Just like they always present Astra as useful and not scary?
asdev•8m ago
i can't believe they straight up ripped the design from Muse
bluebands•15m ago
it doesn't use limits and it's not on $20 plan
preommr•30m ago
Incredibly obvious to anyone paying attention.

Altman shared a post yesterday that basically (I am ovrsimplifying) covered how the best coding, fastest, smartest models is less relevant than building generalist models because that's what builds a platform. Lots of reasons why, like how there's no stickiness for models which is a problem for monetization. They're also using these generalist models to then distill down to make other variants for specialized purposes.

So everything is about getting that huge collection of data and generalization.

CharlieDigital•5m ago

    > ...maybe they think enterprise will pick up and run with Dots? Seems unlikely.
Read the blurb about Microsoft and Agent 365

    > We’re also working with Microsoft to integrate specialist dots with their enterprise governance and security controls in Agent 365. The goal is to let businesses manage dots through the Microsoft tools they already use.
Very, very likely targeting enterprise
tavavex•31m ago
People are already doing most of the work of anthropomorphising LLMs, so OpenAI is just capitalizing on that. Drawing a face on it will make people even more attached to the LLM, they will treat it even more like a person. If they ever get desperate for money they could change the cancel flow to have the cute character plead not to die, and play a cartoony animation of its death when the subscription is canceled. It would stop at least a few users.
vovavili•18m ago
I actually greatly appreciate that I can put something cute on my sister's PC that comes from a developer that won't bundle it with malware. Seems like they fail miserably at being evil.
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39m ago
While there are people around here that would still argue Anthropic/OpenAI tokens are "subsidized", I find it much more plausible that Muse tokens are, given Metas strategy of burning money, including on AI models, in hope of making something happen in a market they want to enter.
ModernMech•25m ago
It’s meant for rich casuals. If you watch the presentation, everyone they depicted using it seemed to be in some high paying which collar profession. I.e. it’s for people like the people who work at open ai.
OzzyB•41m ago
Because ChatGPT is still trying to capture and own the consumer AI market, and are willing to experiment and abstract their underlying models to do so.

Just look at their SuperBowl/World Cup Ads: Grandmas' talking to ChatGipitee, so cute, so mainstream!

This looks like the new Paperclip helper for a new generation--I guess this is their answer to the (failed?) Jony Ive collab/gizmo, and Muse's cute thingymajib...

The real question to me is: have they lost the coders/terminal bros? And this is their push to stay relevant?

7m ago
I don't think it's a conspiracy, they're just making the same mistake many other software companies have in the past. When you sell your products to the most discerning and well-informed consumers, you enter into a cutthroat race to the bottom. OpenAI would like to diversify to more profitable ventures, but since ChatGPT they have yet to release something novel that was truly successful, nonetheless profitable, and thusfar nearly every experiment has been a flop, so to speak (ChatGPT Atlas, the Sora App, Instant Checkout, etc).
torginus•14m ago
Nerds suck. They are smelly, have bad posture, manners, never leave their rooms and are generally unappealing.

They also have a nasty habit of being aware of nefarious practices, will resist all attempts to and harvest their data, or lock them into your service, and will drop you if your competitor makes a 3% better product, and will reject every upsell for actually profitable services.

Plus there is only so many of them.

CodingJeebus•14m ago
The generous subscriptions are wildly unprofitable and both companies are just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks, it's that simple.