This is definitely a good step, however, ALPRs are not going away unfortunately. They have and are and will keep getting deployed by private businesses. They are too valuable for them at this time. The likes of Wal-Mart, etc., will potentially sell information to brokers and so on and some aggregator will resell the data to whomever wants to use the data.
techdmn•39m ago
Any business that puts an ALPR in their parking lot is a business I do not visit.
alexpotato•31m ago
How would you know if it's there?
I ask rhetorically but I also imagine that at some point there will be an app that tells you and then people will vote with their dollars to the places that don't have them.
It won’t matter. Slow encroachment. Everyone has learned from Google that slow encroachment gets what you want.
Price sensitive folks going to dollar general, wal-mart, etc., are not going to go shop at while foods (assuming they even differentiate), and for people who go to ikea or Lowe’s for home goods, it’s not like they’re going to drive 30 miles out of their way to avoid ALPRs.
We can get pols to not deploy them with public monies, but I think that’s all we can do.
paimapi•6m ago
I once interviewed for a trucking logistics SAAS vendor who installed cameras every X number of miles to track shipments of freight. their moat was that physical surveillance network that they had already installed, cameras which scanned (like Flock) not just license plates but decals, looked for signals for driver awareness, collected EMF emissions to see if certain safety and satellite features were on, etc
now they said they didn't sell their data to LEOs but their founders also literally used to work for the CIA (it was bragged about in the initial interviews)
I wouldn't be surprised if companies of that kind are a dime-a-dozen
josefritzishere•44m ago
This is the wrong thing to do, but we need more. Mass surveillance is a crime against humanity.
Lord_Zero•42m ago
What is the wrong thing to do?
kspacewalk2•31m ago
Whatever it is, we need more.
stetrain•28m ago
Fundamentally we need controls on how both the state and private industry can store, use, and share such data.
Playing whack-a-mole with each specific type of surveillance and company involved isn't really fixing the issue.
thataccount•21m ago
Florida is leading the nation on wise legislation where surveillance is involved in this example. It isn't doing too bad on income tax and other pain points either.
CSMastermind•19m ago
Moving here after living in NYC for a decade was a breath of fresh air. I had forgotten that competent governments exist.
thataccount•4m ago
>Moving here after living in NYC for a decade was a breath of fresh air. I had forgotten that competent governments exist.
Kinda sad since even though NYC was always iffy, it was never flat out as useless as it is now.
jmclnx•6m ago
I cannot help to think 1 or more politician or their children was caught breaking a serious law that they would have avoided if the camera was not there. So the fix is to ban the cameras.
shevy-java•5m ago
It's almost like in the movie Minority Report. The state knows where you are at all times (well, not entirely true right now, but to a high extent true now, at the least for car drivers).
mc32•46m ago
techdmn•39m ago
alexpotato•31m ago
I ask rhetorically but I also imagine that at some point there will be an app that tells you and then people will vote with their dollars to the places that don't have them.
yesfitz•25m ago
mc32•10m ago
Price sensitive folks going to dollar general, wal-mart, etc., are not going to go shop at while foods (assuming they even differentiate), and for people who go to ikea or Lowe’s for home goods, it’s not like they’re going to drive 30 miles out of their way to avoid ALPRs.
We can get pols to not deploy them with public monies, but I think that’s all we can do.
paimapi•6m ago
now they said they didn't sell their data to LEOs but their founders also literally used to work for the CIA (it was bragged about in the initial interviews)
I wouldn't be surprised if companies of that kind are a dime-a-dozen