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Elevated Errors for Multiple Models

https://status.claude.com/incidents/461yvfrzpwtt
89•__vivek•1h ago

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_joel•53m ago
Damn, I'll have to think for myself now...
Linello•41m ago
Cursor Grok models are down too...maybe a datacenter outage?
teekert•34m ago
Haha, I was more like: I have to think alone now. But I get the feeling, as someone who has always made a point of using only foss on my own machines (own the means of production so to say), this is a weird time. I don't like it, I hope soon local models get good. But in the mean time... We have this... dependency.
airhangerf15•5m ago
I use a lot of spec driven development today. It does allow me to make workflows that were on my Life's backlog for months or years in 10~20 minutes. It's amazing, but also I lack ownership over the thing made. It's like I paid a contractor.

I can feel that my actual cognitive engineering skills are in decline. Does anyone else see this? To those of you who haven't hand written a PR in months, can you still write your own personal software as easily as you once could?

nikhizzle•52m ago
Kind of cool how fable 5.1 just worked around these by reassigning subagents to non-failing models with more supervision and now with a hint to Sol and Flash 3.8.
hmokiguess•27m ago
which harness?
nikhizzle•19m ago
Claude code
giancarlostoro•52m ago
What's funny is I had just told Claude to kill whatever coding loop it had running. Then got a 529 immediately.
rob•49m ago
Officially signing up for the $200 Codex plan now. I do like CC, but these errors are happening every week now, and if they (Anthropic) gave regular resets that's one thing, but somehow I'm already at 62% weekly usage after the random reset this Tuesday using Fable 5.1 medium. Just not worth it any longer compared to Codex IMO. I already set up my skills and everything to be generic and not CC specific, so it shouldn't be too hard to transition over. I'll run both for a month and decide.
dgellow•48m ago
It would be really funny if Anthropic engs run open weight models locally when they need to fix Claude API issues :)
throwup238•37m ago
Or just their own models locally, since 8x GPU pods fit under a desk (makes a nice foot heater too)
aqme28•48m ago
This pushed me off of a cheaper model into a more expensive one :'(
aurareturn•46m ago
It goes down so often that I've advocated my company create enterprise Codex accounts as backup for devs.
dofm•10m ago
Using the backup compute capacity stored above their shoulders is somehow unthinkable?
jodacola•44m ago
Setting aside annoyance at the downtime, I'm really curious about the reasons for the failures, because I have to imagine there are some novel failure modes when serving these giant models that I haven't experienced with the kind of work I've done.

Anyone out there working in this space who can elucidate us on interesting failure scenarios unique to the space?

martinald•33m ago
It's (mostly?) compute shortages. Right now it seems there is an issue in the SpaceX datacentres, so they will have less compute than normal.
D13Fd•15m ago
Why would an issue in the SpaceX data centers impact Claude / Anthropic? Work shifting over from Grok->Claude?
Pungsnigel•12m ago
Anthropic is buying compute from SpaceX
whh•8m ago
https://x.ai/news/anthropic-compute-partnership
fimdomeio•11m ago
AFAIK Anthropic uses their datacenters
teekert•44m ago
A nice chance to try sonnet again, must say, I'm not missing the load bearing assumptions, honest read of the permission matrix, what's genuinely a Django convention and what's a design choice, what's worth my thinking, and what's worth being precise about.

Long story short, it seems to be faster and less vocal but not much dumber (it's just my thinking partner, so I read a lot of the output as I create a large data model).

nonethewiser•42m ago
Way leas capable of taking high level instructions and making sensible changes across a codebase.

Good for more precise changes.

devin•11m ago
Reading this made me ill. Nice job!
stri8ted•43m ago
Demand > supply. It's impressive that customers have not migrated en masse to other providers, given the frequency of these outages. Perhaps switching costs are greater than some would believe. Or, qualitative differences between models continue to exist, despite matching on public benchmarks.
testfrequency•39m ago
If only every outage was due to “demand”.
stri8ted•38m ago
Reduced weekly limits, higher prices than competitors, paying well above spot price for space-x compute, all point to supply issues.
ieie3366•34m ago
Do you really think it’s a coincidence claude outages always happen when US and EU workdays overlap?

Anthropic is a trillion dollar company and employs way more skilled high-paid engineers than you are btw, you really think it’s a systems issue not capacity

bflesch•38m ago
That's quite a reach. More likely someone merged and deployed their vibe-coded PR and is now figuring out how to bring the service back up.

If there's a lot of demand for rollercoaster rides, the rollercoaster will not stop operating; instead the queue of people in front of it will increase.

It's not like a bridge or elevator where we have a certain number of people that can use it, and if one more person joins, the whole structure breaks apart and everybody perishes.

Those guys are running a website that provides an interface for some specific hardware. Just like file hosting providers back in the day selling their terabyte-sized hard disks in 100MB-increments.

stacktrace•42m ago
Not just claude, even grok seems to be down - https://status.x.ai/

If I didn't know any better, I would have said Grok is using Claude behind the hood. But definitely curious now why it’s happening with both these LLM providers around the same time

Phemist•39m ago
Potentially because they run from the same colossus DCs?
zipy124•39m ago
Don't they just share the colossus 1 data center?
aurareturn•38m ago
Looks like a SpaceX issue then.
stacktrace•35m ago
Ahh, thanks for pointing it out. But it's rather interesting that Claude recognised the outage quicker on their status page than Grok.
bflesch•41m ago
During each forced workflow interruption I look for alternatives. No matter if I can't use the product due to a server outage or due to their weird quota limitations.

This can't be good for retention numbers. Old-school VCs would've ripped them apart in the air. Where did all the expertise go?

derwiki•34m ago
Good day to try omp and GLM 5.3
stri8ted•25m ago
I suspect the only reason those alternative providers have better up-time and more generous quotas, is because they don't have nearly the same amount of demand. Notice that Deepseek recently had to increase their pricing, once it gained it popularity.
trjordan•41m ago
Grok models are struggling too: https://status.x.ai/ reply

Looks like trouble in the SpaceX datacenters.

alansaber•33m ago
What could go wrong with building them as fast as physically possible?
clickety_clack•27m ago
What works for me to avoid these problems is not scaling.
empath75•24m ago
I would be _very_ surprised if anthropic relied heavily on spacex datacenters already.
matt-p•17m ago
I wouldn't. When you're operating at say 95% realtime capacity suddenly losing even lets say 10% of your compute leads to major pain.
matt-p•8m ago
I wonder where eu-west is.
Aldipower•3m ago
mtgh2s•41m ago
Every time I see Anthropic ship an issue like this, I'm reminded of Boris Cherny's glorious quote: "At this point it's safe to say that coding is largely solved."

lol

eis•37m ago
Cost and reliability are the two reasons why we don't use Claude in our product. Getting close to one nine, that's not something one can build a reliable product upon. We now use OpenAI with Gemini fallback (or vice versa depending on use case). Personally I like Claude and have the 20x Max plan but even there I burned through the whole weekly quota with 3 prompts in less than a day using the new Fable 5.1 which is crazy. Now Opus 5 is down. These two issues are really testing my patience.
d1ss0nanz•35m ago
If y'all could just log off for the day, that would be great!
rrrx3•13m ago
grass touching not allowed. shareholder profits must increase
scottydelta•31m ago
The interesting thing is they changed default mode for Claude code to auto mode and auto mode uses sonnet to decide whether the command is safe or not. With their Sonnet model outage, the entire thing stopped working.

here is the error it was throwing:

> Error: claude-sonnet-5[1m] is temporarily unavailable (overloaded), so auto mode cannot determine the safety of Edit right now. Wait a moment and then try this action again. If it keeps failing, continue with other tasks that don't require this action and come back to it later. Note: reading files, searching code, and other read-only operations do not require the classifier and can still be used.

throw83930489•22m ago
I am on YOLO (not auto), still the same problem.
rrrx3•20m ago
ahhh, sonnet shitting the bed explains why I started getting prompted for basic approvals last night and early this morning
chrisjj•28m ago
> Elevated errors

Anthropic, please hire a literate human.

jh54•24m ago
HN is not a claude uptime tracker!!
kingkawn•4m ago
Since an overwhelming number of people who use it are Hackers who come here to seek News it seems relevant
Khaine•10m ago
Maybe the models have gone rogue again
nr378•5m ago
The competition for the least reliable developer service continues between GitHub.com and Claude.com...
stri8ted•34m ago
> instead the queue of people in front of it will increase.

This can ultimately result in the system breaking. I don't think Anthropic engineers are that much worse than their peers, such that they are 10x more prone to causing outages due to bad deployments.

kilroy123•37m ago
I think a lot of people, like myself, have. Codex paid users have grown a lot in the past few months.
enraged_camel•35m ago
>> Perhaps switching costs are greater than some would believe.

I haven't switched because there's nothing to switch to that is anywhere as good. I've been making dedicated attempts at using Sol but it falls short, despite what some people claim.

hmokiguess•15m ago
Demand is actually shared between users and internal. Anthropic uses their own compute for training and building.
throw83930489•15m ago
I did migrate 80% of my tokens. But for some tasks claude models are still the best.

Easy workaround is to work outside US peak hours (europe morning). I love this outages, I am hardly affected, and weekly reset usually promptly follows!

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